Comments on: Google vs. the Desktop http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/ CRT's communications Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:18:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Keith Garner http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27683 Keith Garner Thu, 31 May 2007 11:15:10 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27683 Matt, I might need to take a deep look silverlight based on the fact that ruby was announced as a language for it. My bias is showing again. Martin Fowler brought me that info at <a href="http://martinfowler.com/bliki/RubyMicrosoft.html" rel="nofollow">http://martinfowler.com/bliki/RubyMicrosoft.html</a> Matt, I might need to take a deep look silverlight based on the fact that ruby was announced as a language for it. My bias is showing again.

Martin Fowler brought me that info at http://martinfowler.com/bliki/RubyMicrosoft.html

]]> By: Matt http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27643 Matt Wed, 30 May 2007 17:55:06 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27643 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/112182/mono-shines-microsofts-silverlight-on-linux.html Beyond that, the relevance is that Silverlight promises to deliver online/offline functionality natively (as Andrew described), with its own design for trusted non-volatile storage. -Matt http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/112182/mono-shines-microsofts-silverlight-on-linux.html

Beyond that, the relevance is that Silverlight promises to deliver online/offline functionality natively (as Andrew described), with its own design for trusted non-volatile storage.

-Matt

]]> By: Keith Garner http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27288 Keith Garner Mon, 21 May 2007 15:18:55 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27288 Matt, I don't think Andrew intended any bias, this is what has been on his mind. But now that you mention silverlight, here's a few problems with it: 1) No non-Mac/non-Windows version. (Okay, that's a bias) 2) for now, its just a supercharged flash, and that's somewhat outside this discussion. At least to me. Matt,

I don’t think Andrew intended any bias, this is what has been on his mind.

But now that you mention silverlight, here’s a few problems with it: 1) No non-Mac/non-Windows version. (Okay, that’s a bias) 2) for now, its just a supercharged flash, and that’s somewhat outside this discussion. At least to me.

]]> By: Andrew Tillman http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27287 Andrew Tillman Mon, 21 May 2007 15:14:07 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27287 Dave, Just wanted to clarify. Are you saying that Fastmail has bad phone support or no phone support? I've never had to use their support so I wouldn't know. There are other more professinally minded email providers out there that do what Fastmail does (and more usually). Exchange can do the hybrid model, when it is paired with Outlook that's pretty much how it operates. But you have to use Outlook to make that work (Evolution sometimes works) Just focusing on email, Exchange can be pair with other clients through IMAP, but it's IMAP implementation isn't very good. Also it's webclient is very cluncky if you are using a browser other than IE. So, if you are an all MS shop, Exchange will server most of your needs in this area, otherwise it becomes a huge pain in the ass. In this I can speak from experience. Dave,

Just wanted to clarify. Are you saying that Fastmail has bad phone support or no phone support? I’ve never had to use their support so I wouldn’t know. There are other more professinally minded email providers out there that do what Fastmail does (and more usually).

Exchange can do the hybrid model, when it is paired with Outlook that’s pretty much how it operates. But you have to use Outlook to make that work (Evolution sometimes works) Just focusing on email, Exchange can be pair with other clients through IMAP, but it’s IMAP implementation isn’t very good. Also it’s webclient is very cluncky if you are using a browser other than IE. So, if you are an all MS shop, Exchange will server most of your needs in this area, otherwise it becomes a huge pain in the ass. In this I can speak from experience.

]]> By: Dave Lopez http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27237 Dave Lopez Sun, 20 May 2007 01:40:51 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27237 There are many advocates for Fastmail but if you need telephone support (like me) and you are not really tech savvoy, good luck. What's your thoughts on Microsoft server exchange for e-mail to address the desktop/Web access/storage issue? Hope that makes sense. There are many advocates for Fastmail but if you need telephone support (like me) and you are not really tech savvoy, good luck. What’s your thoughts on Microsoft server exchange for e-mail to address the desktop/Web access/storage issue? Hope that makes sense.

]]> By: Matt Lavallee http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27193 Matt Lavallee Fri, 18 May 2007 19:03:25 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27193 ... all this and not a mention of Microsoft's new Silverlight platform? *cough*bias*cough* -Matt … all this and not a mention of Microsoft’s new Silverlight platform? *cough*bias*cough*

-Matt

]]> By: Andrew Tillman http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27191 Andrew Tillman Fri, 18 May 2007 17:28:47 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27191 I forgot about that plugin, since I don't use Firefox. I'd love it if Camino had a way to use Firefox plugins. I forgot about that plugin, since I don’t use Firefox. I’d love it if Camino had a way to use Firefox plugins.

]]> By: Keith Garner http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27190 Keith Garner Fri, 18 May 2007 17:23:22 +0000 http://blog.realtors.org/crt/2007/05/18/google-vs-the-desktop/#comment-27190 In the next generation of Firefox (or via things like the <a href="http://www.sitepen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/api_blog_post1.html" rel="nofollow">dojo API</a>) you'll be able to do offline-enabled webapps. I think its heading more towards your hybrid model, but it will still be in the browser. The other thing I thought of is that I can get to my del.icio.us bookmarks offline. The newest del.icio.us Add-On for Firefox keeps a local mirror of the bookmarks for quick searching. It works really well. In the next generation of Firefox (or via things like the dojo API) you’ll be able to do offline-enabled webapps. I think its heading more towards your hybrid model, but it will still be in the browser.

The other thing I thought of is that I can get to my del.icio.us bookmarks offline. The newest del.icio.us Add-On for Firefox keeps a local mirror of the bookmarks for quick searching. It works really well.

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